Contradictions and faults in the Bible, Helpfull scripture by tiefling
08.06.05 (6:10 pm) [edit]
Isahiah13:17-20
BEHOLD, I WILL STIR UP THE MEDES AGAINST THEM, WHICH SHALL NOT REGARD SILVER; AND AS FOR GOLD, THEY SHALL NOT DELIGHT IN IT. THEIR BOWS ALSO SHALL DASH THE YOUNG MEN TO PIECES; AND THEY SHALL HAVE NO PITY ON THE FRUIT OF THE WOMB; THEIR EYE SHALL NOT SPARE CHILDREN. AND BABYLON, THE GLORY OF KINGDOMS, THE BEAUTY OF THE CHALDEES' EXCELLENCY, SHALL BE AS WHEN GOD OVERTHREW SODOM AND GOMORRAH. IT SHALL NEVER BE INHABITED, NEITHER SHALL IT BE DWELT IN FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION: NEITHER SHALL THE ARABIAN PITCH TENT THERE; NEITHER SHALL THE SHEPHERDS MAKE THEIR FOLD THERE.
This is a propecy in the Bible that has never happened and never will happen, because medes was destroyed by the persians before they could conquer babylon and babylon remained a thriving city untill at least 323 B.C
Isahiah17:1:
THE BURDEN OF DAMASCUS. BEHOLD, DAMASCUS IS TAKEN AWAY FROM BEING A CITY, AND IT SHALL BE A RUINOUS HEAP.
Damascus was not destroyed and in fact exists today
Isahiah19:-5
AND THE EGYPTIANS WILL I GIVE OVER INTO THE HAND OF A CRUEL LORD; AND A FIERCE KING SHALL RULE OVER THEM, SAITH THE LORD, THE LORD OF HOSTS. AND THE WATERS SHALL FAIL FROM THE SEA, AND THE RIVER SHALL BE WASTED AND DRIED UP.
Never has the Nile river dried up.
Now what about this the bible says no man can serve two masters. So how does it explain this?
II Samuel 24:1
AND AGAIN THE ANGER OF THE LORD WAS KINDLED AGAINST ISRAEL, AND HE MOVED DAVID AGAINST THEM TO SAY, GO, NUMBER ISRAEL AND JUDAH.
I Chronicles 21:1
And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
Does this make sense to anyone?
posted by: abidin (reply)
post date: 08.06.05 (7:01 pm)
It makes perfect sense when you DON'T take it out of context as you just have. You have to consider the ENTIRE word of God..not just parts.
Geezzzzz.....
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.06.05 (7:10 pm)
......all contradicting theories make perfect sense untill you out in contradiction? oh now i get it
posted by: gamerchick (reply)
post date: 08.06.05 (7:36 pm)
i can use these passages as an argument as to why im an atheist. thanxs, oh resourceful one.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.06.05 (7:38 pm)
No problem
posted by: Boomersangel (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (12:44 pm)
please do not misunderstand as I am agnostic at the very least, You must keep in mind any book that is authored by so many different individuals is bound to have numerous contradictions.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (12:46 pm)
Yes I know I am trying to show people the Bible is simply a big mess of stupidity that noone can figure out *even if they believe it*
So they simply allow themselvs to tailor it as they see fit.
posted by: Boomersangel (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (1:00 pm)
Reply to: Kupov
good point!!
posted by: Boomersangel (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (1:00 pm)
Reply to: Kupov
good point!!
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (3:40 pm)
Thank you
posted by: CrazyBeautiful3 (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (3:43 pm)
i think you religon should stay between you and your god, don't get other people involed in it. keep it between you can your god. who cares what you believe in, don't push it on other people. and as for the bible believe what you want to out of it.
posted by: SeXiiYelLa07 (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (4:13 pm)
now CrazyBeautiful3 made a very goOd point!!!
and with that kupov whas ur point?!?!?! what are u trying to prove and WHY!?!?
i mean ur lil theories u have dosent make any one 2 guess nor questiion there beleif in the Lord or the Bible...so i mean whas the deal?!?!?
Are You Against God
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (4:25 pm)
Reply to: SeXiiYelLa07
I think if it does not at least make them think then they are stubborn or ignorant, I am not against God.
posted by: Hypocracy (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (4:25 pm)
I'll reply when I have time, Kupov. I'm going to watch Dukes of Hazzard. I think.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (4:26 pm)
Reply to: Hypocracy
Looking forward to it
posted by: SeXiiYelLa07 (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (4:56 pm)
Reply to: Kupov
LOL!!, well the only one who seemz to be stubborn or ignorant is u...no offense...but i mean be 4 real, just because no one will find YOUR theories 2 be facts or atleast reasonable dosent mean their stubborn or ignorant...
Everyone is entitled to their on opinion and in this case this is yours and until this is proven by FACT then any and everybody can beleive whatever the hell they want toO...
posted by: preceptlady (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (5:15 pm)
Reply to Kupov.... no what exactly does that mean?
......all contradicting theories make perfect sense untill you out in contradiction?
Wanna explain?
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (6:30 pm)
Reply to: SeXiiYelLa07
Yes it does when a contradicting theory shows parts of the Bible to be wrong simply ignoring it is ignorant
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (6:30 pm)
Reply to: preceptlady
Sorry I meant to say put
posted by: newbie (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (7:02 pm)
you're wasting your breath. you can't argue with people who've already made up their minds.
for those who have faith no explanation is necessary and logic won't change that.
having said that. you're gay.
as gay as any priest, rabbi, imam, sifu or whatever.
posted by: BareKnuckleBxer (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (7:41 pm)
hahahahha! That last comment amuses me.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (7:52 pm)
I dont really get it.....I am gay?
posted by: newbie (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (7:54 pm)
Reply to: Kupov
Yes...
Gayer than Newt Gingrich or John Kerry
posted by: Marijane24 (reply)
post date: 08.07.05 (8:54 pm)
Interesting.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.08.05 (9:19 am)
Sorry Newbie I have deleted your last comment
posted by: ME MYSELF AND I (reply)
post date: 08.08.05 (10:44 am)
Reply to: Kupov
Kupov is right, so stfu and listen to him, or go get a life or somthin...... weeeeeeeeeee
posted by: newbie (reply)
post date: 08.08.05 (2:47 pm)
Reply to: Kupov
Yeah but that doesn't change the fact that you're just as tyrannical as God.
You two never let me say anything, but you still expect me to go down on my knees for you.
posted by: graceshaker (reply)
post date: 08.08.05 (7:29 pm)
Reply to: Kupov
"I am not against God."
i think i understand what youre saying here. i too am against certain perceptions of God - especially the ones that make him into their own design (like in my God of no design post). is this what you mean or have i missed it?
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.08.05 (7:42 pm)
Reply to: graceshaker
Basically and i do not like it when people make out that their God is morally righteous when quite obviously that is not true.
posted by: graceshaker (reply)
post date: 08.08.05 (7:51 pm)
my question then is this - by what standard do you judge God morally unrighteous?
posted by: dahar (reply)
post date: 08.08.05 (8:05 pm)
Reply to: graceshaker
With our traditional views of religion of god, what other standard can there be?
Which is bothersome.... do we really need god or A god to be moral, to be good?
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.09.05 (12:22 pm)
Reply to: kurtmaddox
So if Christians can look over mistakes in the bible such as I have pointed out to them, then why is it difficult for them to say "ok homosexuality is okay because not all of the ible is correct"
Saying it was written by man and thus some of it is wrong is simply an excuse to believe whatever you want like "cigarretes are a sin" can someone show me scripture supporting that.
And heres another argument the Bible says being homosexual is an abomination, it also says eating shellfish is an abomination, si why do Christians not attack shellfish with the same fervance that they attack homosexuality.
posted by: AmyLeeZealot (reply)
post date: 08.09.05 (5:32 pm)
Haha...awesome...the Bible is so stupid. Just a book written by a bunch of male pigs, who were pretty good at manipulation.
posted by: abidin (reply)
post date: 08.10.05 (10:22 am)
For those of you that don't believe in God or His Word, what IF the christians are right? What if you wake up one day in Hell for eternity? Will you laugh then?
posted by: MissJane (reply)
post date: 08.10.05 (10:31 am)
though i am not of the christian persuasion myself, i think it is very hateful to pronounce someone elses beliefs as "a big mess of stupidity".
you could use a lesson in tolerence.
if the bible is as silly as you say it is, why not just leave it at that instead of trying to destroy others beliefs?
live and let live, kupov.
And grow up.
posted by: MissJane (reply)
post date: 08.10.05 (10:32 am)
and whats with the censoring of those who don't agree with you?
people who spew hate like you do should expect to be laughed at.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.10.05 (10:32 am)
Reply to: abidin
It matters not even if Christianity is right God is still wrong for giving insufficiant proof.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.10.05 (10:33 am)
Reply to: MissJane
Because the Bible is against Gays and Agains Pagans, when this ends I will let it continue with peace.
posted by: MissJane (reply)
post date: 08.10.05 (10:44 am)
so any document you don't agree with, you will launch a crusade against? sounds like the smart thing to do. Life is going to be hard for you, kupov.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.10.05 (11:40 am)
Reply to: MissJane
No any document that alters people lives in such magnitude and attacks people who have done nothing to them i will attack.
posted by: MissJane (reply)
post date: 08.10.05 (12:19 pm)
start your crusade against the koran next, it oppresses plenty of people. Or wait, you are fine with that arent you?
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.10.05 (12:51 pm)
Reply to: MissJane
When did I say I was? The Koran is wrong but i do not know enough about it to fight it.
posted by: MissJane (reply)
post date: 08.11.05 (3:40 am)
Reply to: Kupov
just as you obviously don't know enough about the bible to attack it. why don't you go play some video games or something?
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.11.05 (8:39 am)
Reply to: MissJane
I am very sick of these insult posts, look at the POST I wrote I am trying to show you contradictions in the Bible I HAVE the scripture that contradicts. That is rock solid, there should be NOONE who disagrees with this because it DOES contradict, mabye you need to look up what the word contradict means.
posted by: MissJane (reply)
post date: 08.12.05 (4:38 am)
Reply to: Kupov
and you might want to look up these words: context, intelligence, research, fuckwit.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.12.05 (9:48 pm)
Reply to: MissJane
Simply an insult post and below me to respond.
posted by: Jewdar (reply)
post date: 08.14.05 (5:50 pm)
it does to me
posted by: Farfarello (reply)
post date: 08.14.05 (10:36 pm)
israel is number 69 :)
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.15.05 (12:49 am)
Reply to: Farfarello
I dont get it, i know what 69 is but how is isreal a sexual position.
posted by: grateful1 (reply)
post date: 08.15.05 (5:25 pm)
ok my answer to your last post..this one just boogles me...read the whole thing not just some peices..anyway i have decided to leave you with this instead of my original answer...one day you will have the chance to find out the answers and mysteries to all of your questions..hopefully by then it wont be too late for you to enjoy!
posted by: grateful1 (reply)
post date: 08.15.05 (5:50 pm)
oh yeah and since you like to read the bible soooo much..heres a nice lil place you can go and downlaod a bible study...for your research..esword...check it out and be sure to use the lil numbers in green to find out more! just type in esword.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.17.05 (2:14 am)
Reply to: grateful1
Are you being sarcastic? because it sounds like you are.
posted by: grateful1 (reply)
post date: 08.24.05 (3:52 pm)
Reply to: Kupov
no, i wasnt being sarcastic...just straight forward and giving you some information. i mean it really does seem like you really like to dig in there for what you think are contradictions. thats the impression i get anyway..correct me if i am wrong!
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.30.05 (7:32 pm)
Reply to: Tiefling
Yes done helpfull scripture by tiefling
posted by: DayTripper7 (reply)
post date: 10.26.05 (5:12 am)
My question, who took to time to sort that garbage out?
You're right. The bible is a big mess of stupid. A bag of gay.
I love you.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 10.26.05 (5:37 pm)
Reply to: DayTripper7
:D
posted by: no sides (reply)
post date: 05.19.06 (5:59 am)
It is a shame that people are not seeing clearly
the fact that the bible is based on prophicies
as well as other scriptures, I challenge anyone
to research the oldest record of the great flood
and also take note that the bible only
take into account the relationship between god and man. Another great religion take into account by way of respect and value the acknowledgement and compassion for all forms of life, a scocio cosmic relationship if you would. For your information sake the oldest record of the great flood is not that found in the bible, here is another hint "Manu and Satrupa". There is one point I wish to make though, Christ, as the bible claims is god's representative on earth but why then did christ ask god "why have you forsaken me"? does it seem to be weak of him?
To all those die hard christians you are quite
fond of the saying: " For god so loved the world he sent his only begotton son" Just to note another great religion says "" For god so loved the world he came himself" please note he did not send a second.
And if god is so fair to all then why are some
born deaf, blind,rich homes,poor homes,good homes, broken families. Your answer to research is reincarnation, the law of karma. It is a shame that intelligent people are saying that their god is "the only true and living god" I ask you a logical question can god be false? and why argue over scriptures that are thousands and millions of years older than we are?
It is a sad thing that people's actions are as animalistic and raw without proper tought just like the animals they eat.
To bring the point home not everyone cannot have the same profession like wise the same religion, everyone has a different role to play in this world and if we continue to "cut up"
oneanother what we will have is an eventual break down in moral values. Place your energy at home not on the religion of others because their household may be more loving and productive than yours. It is healthy to voice your opinions but to say my god is false and your god is real is plain idle.