Good and Moral are Relative
07.17.05 (7:14 pm) [edit]
The words good and moral can be used to describe every and all actions regardless of how terrible they may seem to another individual.Since no action anyone can take will ever be good for everyone then it can be reasoned that good is simply an illusion and morality with it.
For examply killing children you say is immoral? What if I were to say the child you killed was Hitler? Does the end ever justify the means?
Killing a new mother is immoral you say? What if that mother grows up to abuse her child and drive her child to suicide? is such an action still immoral?
Also morality and Good and Evil are all terms popularized by Religion,without a book that everyone follows about morality everything everyone does for a moral reason may be immoral and vice versa.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 07.17.05 (7:23 pm)
yes any book of simply morals (as people call them) would make the world a better place. But only if everyone else follows them too. if you wont murder so you dont murder a known killer and then he goes off and murders 14 children was your action to spare him really moral?
posted by: Cutter (reply)
post date: 07.17.05 (7:41 pm)
I don't think that "good" is an illusion. I think that it's simply subjective.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 07.17.05 (7:48 pm)
Yes but Mandy what if you live you'r life as a Christian and later find out Islam is the true faith? then you will go to hell.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 07.17.05 (8:02 pm)
Oh, i suggest you read some more books on Islam becasue nowhere in the Koran or any other religious books does it say that. Please do not simplybeleive the anti muslim garbage your church may produce.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 07.17.05 (8:20 pm)
Now listen Christianity caused the holocaust and the crusades as well as the witch burning crusades going on right now. I have also never seen Christianity influance the world positivly.
posted by: holy_of_holies (reply)
post date: 07.17.05 (10:31 pm)
Exodus 22:18
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 07.17.05 (10:43 pm)
replie to mandy: Well show me where in the Koran it tells them to commit terrorist bombings
posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 07.19.05 (7:27 am)
Kupov, is there a purpose higher and more important than yourself for which you are willing to commit your life, to live for and to die for?
posted by: graceshaker (reply)
post date: 07.20.05 (9:33 am)
MnJ4L said: "My opinion is to go by the Ten Commandments (because I'm a Christian)"
as a follower of Christ i cant for the life of me understand why you would turn to the 10 commandments instead of the life of the Christ.
Kupov said: "Yes but Mandy what if you live you'r life as a Christian and later find out Islam is the true faith? then you will go to hell."
actually this is not what Islam teaches. in the holy Quran true followers of the Christ are accepted into heaven.
and for MnJ4L - Islam does not teach what you have said - and the Inquisition of the dark ages would be great evidence against Christianity if in fact we are going to judge by the acts of adherants.
if we judge Islam by what Muslims do and then we should expect our faith to be judged in the same manner.
i suggest reading the Bible and the Quran and working it out from there. i doubt very seriously that most people who follow Islam in the terrorist sense have ever cracked a Quran just as i doubt very seriously that Christians who advocate war and torture have ever seen the gospels.
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 07.24.05 (1:29 am)
graceshaker, please do me a favour, go to In my opinion,org sign up and post please, you can obviously debate and the one Christian (actually there are 5 but she is the only one who actually ebates about religion) is desperate for help. please I guerantee you if you try it you will like it
posted by: graceshaker (reply)
post date: 08.05.05 (4:54 pm)
Reply to: Kupov
ill check it out.
speaking of which have you taken a look at my forum?
http://s10.invisionfree.com/the_holy_wild/index.php?act=idx
i would really dig it if you dropped in and got involved there. Ü
posted by: Kupov (reply)
post date: 08.05.05 (7:57 pm)
I had a phpbb forum for a while it was very good however I installed some crap mod and it was stuck in debug mode, I did not start a new one, I will check your out.